Hans A. von Spakovsky is a senior legal fellow at The Heritage Foundation and the coauthor of “Who’s Counting? How Fraudsters and Bureaucrats Put Your Vote at Risk” and “Obama’s Enforcer: Eric Holder’s Justice Department.” He served as a commissioner on the Federal Election Commission from 2006 to 2007.


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Steve Gruber: Hans. Welcome back.

Hans A. von Spakovsky: Thanks for having me back.

Steve Gruber: Good to have you here. And before we get to the sanctuary cities, which I know we were here to talk about the Crackdown finally on Sanctuary cities. I just want your take over the last 24 48 Hours on Michael Bloomberg all the tapes that are coming out now, he's going to be on the debate stage tomorrow in Nevada and he is despised by Bernie. He is despised by Joe Biden. He's going to be a pinata out there. I believe I'm kind of looking forward to it your take on everything that's going on with Mike. Bloomberg and Hillary Clinton all of it.
Hans A. von Spakovsky: Well, it's just interesting to me that you've got somebody on the debate stage who so far. I don't think he's been in a single one of the primaries that has occurred which is kind of an odd phenomenon. You have to wonder why is he there is it because of the amount of money? He's got and has Jared it just it just kind of a bizarre situation.
Steve Gruber: Well sure. It is Aunt plus all things are come out the demeaning comments about women.

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