There's really no playbook for the many things that need to be dealt with in a pandemic, but the State of Michigan has announced because many businesses have experienced disruptions to their operations due to the COVID-19 situation, they now have more time to make monthly or quarterly sales, use and withholding tax payments.
Charles Owens: Well basically you and I both know if somebody went around it campaign for tax hikes probably wouldn't get a lot of interest from citizens and businesses and others so instead they put out front that they're out there to reform lobbying laws in Michigan you know those evil grubby lobbyists you know we're going to open how much should a college meals they can buy for lawmakers and they have to disclose who they talk to.
Steve Gruber: You got two million dollars in your retirement fund. you don't need that kind of money. We need to have a tax on your 401k in retirement I mean I foresee that coming. Am I crazy and paranoid or do you see the same sort of thing?