The following is the audio of my last interviewi with Dr. Gary Wolfram.  Dr.Wolfram is the William E. Simon Professor of Economics at Hillsdale College and President of Hillsdale Policy Group, a consulting firm specializing in taxation and policy analysis. he received his Ph.D. in economics from the University of California at Berkeley. .

Dr. Wolfram and I will be discusaed the effects of trade deals in Michigan and across the U.S. Trades deals such as NAFTA and TPP.